Anonymous

8G RAM kill the deal, Any deal with 16G RAM at least?

2 years ago Up 18 | Reply

Anonymous

So expensive

2 years ago Up 5 | Reply

learnserve

I would buy if it is $1199 or below

2 years ago Up 4 | Reply

Anonymous

Pass too crazy expensive

2 years ago Up 5 | Reply

Anonymous

Apple no longer sells to the low income market. Not surprising to hear people complain that they can't afford it. But if you can afford it, it's an incredible value.

2 years ago Up 6 | Reply

Anonymous

Ram is so cheap these days but still Apple sells a premium price laptop with only 8GB. And that is suppose to be a deal.

2 years ago Up 9 | Reply

Anonymous

8GB kills the deal.

2 years ago Up 4 | Reply

Anonymous

I bought at 1217 - Open box excellent at best buy. So good. It is just the same as new. //@learnserve: I would buy if it is $1199 or below

2 years ago Up 2 | Reply

Anonymous

They want the chip to overheat and fry so they can sell more mb’s in 3-4 years //@anonymous: Ram is so cheap these days but still Apple sells a premium price laptop with only 8GB. And that is suppose to be a deal.

2 years ago Up 4 | Reply

Anonymous

True, you basically have to spend 1600+ or else you are buying subpar equipment that will fail in 3 years //@anonymous: Apple no longer sells to the low income market. Not surprising to hear people complain that they can't afford it. But if you can afford it, it's an incredible value.

2 years ago Up 5 | Reply

Anonymous

Very much agree! //@Anonymous: 8GB kills the deal.

2 years ago Up 4 | Reply

Anonymous

Apple doesn’t do that. That sounds like a Lenovo strategy //@anonymous: They want the chip to overheat and fry so they can sell more mb’s in 3-4 years //@anonymous: Ram is so cheap these days but still Apple sells a premium price laptop with only 8GB. And that is suppose to be a deal.

2 years ago Up 8 | Reply

Anonymous

Now, as you know, apple chips are not getting much better, partly because of lack of good engineers and the slow improvement over the 3/4nm node. So... getting M1 pro instead may be a better idea.

2 years ago Up 4 | Reply

Anonymous

Previous gen M1 processors are a better value and should be more than sufficient for 70-80% of all users. If anything, Apple has bad marketing. No professional user is going to buy the MB with low specs, and no average user is going to spend $1.2K+ on it either. They should have significantly lowered the price, or not have an option with 8GB RAM/256GB storage.

2 years ago Up 7 | Reply

Anonymous

Don't pay Apple Tax

2 years ago Up 5 | Reply

Anonymous

This will not sell

2 years ago Up 4 | Reply

Anonymous

Lol at 8GB ram.

2 years ago Up 6 | Reply

Anonymous

It is simply too expensive compared to PC

2 years ago Up 5 | Reply

Anonymous

Agree! //@Anonymous: It is simply too expensive compared to PC

2 years ago Up 6 | Reply

Anonymous

1), M1 is super fast with no heat. 2), Mac is very efficient in using memory. I am a programmer converted from PC to MAC ~ 10 years ago, never look back. Of course, I bought a MacBook Pro, but I got a M1 MacBook Air for my son, he is very happy about it.

2 years ago Up 3 | Reply

Anonymous

With M processors RAM is IN the M2 processor. Completely different story compared to other laptops.
//@anonymous: Lol at 8GB ram.

2 years ago Up 3 | Reply

Anonymous

Ram is ram, built-in make it faster but that doesn’t make it larger //@anonymous: With M processors RAM is IN the M2 processor. Completely different story compared to other laptops.
//@anonymous: Lol at 8GB ram.

2 years ago Up 3 | Reply

Anonymous

Ram doesn’t make the computers run faster. It makes you open more programs at once. The cpu clock makes the computer runs faster. ( i7 12700 has 5ghz clock, it makes the computer run faster than i5 cpu) You need to understand the basic functions first. //@anonymous: Ram is ram, built-in make it faster but that doesn’t make it larger //@anonymous: With M processors RAM is IN the M2 processor. Completely different story compared to other laptops.
//@anonymous: Lol at 8GB ram.

2 years ago Up 3 | Reply

Anonymous

Agreed. Many people are talking nonsense //@Anonymous: Ram doesn’t make the computers run faster. It makes you open more programs at once. The cpu clock makes the computer runs faster. ( i7 12700 has 5ghz clock, it makes the computer run faster than i5 cpu) You need to understand the basic functions first. //@anonymous: Ram is ram, built-in make it faster but that doesn’t make it larger //@anonymous: With M processors RAM is IN the M2 processor. Completely different story compared to other laptops.
//@anonymous: Lol at 8GB ram.

2 years ago Up 2 | Reply

Anonymous

Not entirely true. When you run out of ram, which is relatively easy to do with only 8gb,the computer is forced to use swap space which is basically your ssd drive. Swapping memory pages in and out of disk is slow. I'd much rather have a slightly slower cpu with more memory. //@anonymous: Ram doesn’t make the computers run faster. It makes you open more programs at once. The cpu clock makes the computer runs faster. ( i7 12700 has 5ghz clock, it makes the computer run faster than i5 cpu) You need to understand the basic functions first.

2 years ago Up 3 | Reply

Anonymous

Your computer RAM is essentially short term memory where data is stored as the processor needs it. This isn't to be confused with long-term data that's stored on your hard drive, which stays there even when your computer is turned off.(info wouldn’t stay the your ram, the temporally memory pages are always on your SSD.) //@anonymous: Not entirely true. When you run out of ram, which is relatively easy to do with only 8gb,the computer is forced to use swap space which is basically your ssd drive. Swapping memory pages in and out of disk is slow. I'd much rather have a slightly slower cpu with more memory. //@anonymous: Ram doesn’t make the computers run faster. It makes you open more programs at once. The cpu clock makes the computer runs faster. ( i7 12700 has 5ghz clock, it makes the computer run faster than i5 cpu) You need to understand the basic functions first.

2 years ago Up 5 | Reply

Anonymous

It’s $1599 in Amazon not $1549

1 year ago Up 2 | Reply

Anonymous

Clip the $49.01 off coupon offered by Amazon. //@anonymous: It’s $1599 in Amazon not $1549

1 year ago Up 1 | Reply

Anonymous

14.2 M3 pro 18G 512 G at $1,499 is a better option

8 months ago Up 2 | Reply

Anonymous

Overpriced, I got 1099 at Best Buy

6 months ago Up 1 | Reply

Anonymous

13” //@anonymous: Overpriced, I got 1099 at Best Buy

6 months ago Up 2 | Reply

Anonymous

256GB at $1049 in Nov/Dec was a better deal.

4 months ago Up 0 | Reply

Anonymous

13” //@Anonymous: 256GB at $1049 in Nov/Dec was a better deal.

4 months ago Up 0 | Reply

Anonymous

Get the M4 version using education discount

1 month ago Up 2 | Reply

Anonymous

8GB memory is so generous in 2524.

1 year ago Up 21 | Reply

Anonymous

8GB memory is so generous in 2524.

1 year ago Up 21 | Reply

Anonymous

8gb must be a typo , u mean 16gb?

1 year ago Up 2 | Reply

Anonymous

It is OK, it is for Apple users. If Apple don't give them 16gb, they won't need it.

11 months ago Up 1 | Reply

Anonymous

8GB and 16GB M chip Mac have no performance difference, YouTube has a lot of performance test on 8/16 gb M? Mac’s.

11 months ago Up 0 | Reply

Anonymous

Lol, why does Apple sell 16GB, 32GB models? //@anonymous: 8GB and 16GB M chip Mac have no performance difference, YouTube has a lot of performance test on 8/16 gb M? Mac’s.

11 months ago Up 0 | Reply

Anonymous

8GB is not enough. It is very possible in the next 2-3 years Apple will not allow iOS update due to not enough memory .

Here is the comment from XDA.

By setting the minimum memory requirement for Predictive Code Completion higher than what base-model Macs offer now, Apple is effectively admitting that 8GB isn't really enough. Even if it is enough for today, it certainly won't be enough for much longer.

10 months ago Up 1 | Reply

Anonymous

Apple claims to be an environmentally friendly company but continues to release 8GB laptops with tiny SSDs, neither of which can be upgraded.
Why do they do it? Well they know these devices won't last very long because the OS and apps quickly use over 8gb leading to ssd being used as ram(virtual memory), making ssd die prematurely from repeated writes to same location. Thus, they can be fairly certain many of these users will need a new laptop in 3-5 years. Not only that but as other's mentioned, they also can make 16gb the minimum for mac OS in ~2-3 years from now and all those users won't be able to upgrade. At least then they'll finally stop selling 8gb models by then ... which they've been selling for the last 20 years or so.

9 months ago Up 1 | Reply

Anonymous

Apple IS environmentally friendly, what are we going to do with all those 8gb ram that nobody wants? The specs are trash but Apple charges the hell outaya, that's the enviornmental fees kicks in. //@Anonymous: Apple claims to be an environmentally friendly company but continues to release 8GB laptops with tiny SSDs, neither of which can be upgraded.
Why do they do it? Well they know these devices won't last very long because the OS and apps quickly use over 8gb leading to ssd being used as ram(virtual memory), making ssd die prematurely from repeated writes to same location. Thus, they can be fairly certain many of these users will need a new laptop in 3-5 years. Not only that but as other's mentioned, they also can make 16gb the minimum for mac OS in ~2-3 years from now and all those users won't be able to upgrade. At least then they'll finally stop selling 8gb models by then ... which they've been selling for the last 20 years or so.

9 months ago Up 0 | Reply

Anonymous

Our economic is more fragile //@anonymous: Apple claims to be an environmentally friendly company but continues to release 8GB laptops with tiny SSDs, neither of which can be upgraded.
Why do they do it? Well they know these devices won't last very long because the OS and apps quickly use over 8gb leading to ssd being used as ram(virtual memory), making ssd die prematurely from repeated writes to same location. Thus, they can be fairly certain many of these users will need a new laptop in 3-5 years. Not only that but as other's mentioned, they also can make 16gb the minimum for mac OS in ~2-3 years from now and all those users won't be able to upgrade. At least then they'll finally stop selling 8gb models by then ... which they've been selling for the last 20 years or so.

9 months ago Up 2 | Reply

Anonymous

With the M4 chip, Apple set the machine base memory is 16GB - no more 8GB. Something is about to change in the next few years that caused Apple to make that decision.
Apple machine is not cheap. You may have spend above $1K to buy a machine that can be crippled/excluded to future updates because of the hardware limitation. And there is no way to upgrade the memory, storage to bigger capacity on a Mac If you definitely have to buy a Mac, get the 16 GB memory.

6 months ago Up 5 | Reply

Anonymous

16GB at $1049 during Nov/Dec 2024 was a much better deal

2 months ago Up 1 | Reply

Anonymous

8 gb ram was the standard 10 years ago. Apple play tricks so that you pay $400 more to get more ram. It’s a despicable margin booster

1 year ago Up 5 | Reply

Anonymous

Apple taxes some ppl for IQ. //@Anonymous: 8 gb ram was the standard 10 years ago. Apple play tricks so that you pay $400 more to get more ram. It’s a despicable margin booster

1 year ago Up 7 | Reply

Anonymous

multiplying zero is always zero though. //@Anonymous: Apple taxes some ppl for IQ. //@Anonymous: 8 gb ram was the standard 10 years ago. Apple play tricks so that you pay $400 more to get more ram. It’s a despicable margin booster

1 year ago Up 0 | Reply

Anonymous

This is Air, 8GB ram + 512GB SSD is perfect for a high schooler with a lot of pictures + video or an elderly surfing the Net virus free.

I am an old man and I am looking for 15 inch, 8GB, 512GB for under 1000. M2 is fine

9 months ago Up 1 | Reply

Anonymous

this was $849 not long ago.

4 months ago Up 1 | Reply

Anonymous

I know many old men who are still smart and not been taxed for their IQ by Apple. Don't give up. //@Anonymous: This is Air, 8GB ram + 512GB SSD is perfect for a high schooler with a lot of pictures + video or an elderly surfing the Net virus free. I am an old man and I am looking for 15 inch, 8GB, 512GB for under 1000. M2 is fine

2 months ago Up 1 | Reply

Anonymous

You compared your phone with car. You can easily drive your car for 10+ years. Can you do the same for your phone? //@anonymous: That's right. I don't feel my new phone is faster than my last. And I cannot drive my new car faster than my old car. Things are running about the same. It's not the reason for change. We spending because we want to stimulate the economy and our dopamine production. //@Anonymous: i got this one just a month ago, honestly, I don't feel it is running fast than my four year old macbook pro.

1 year ago Up 19 | Reply

Anonymous

This is such a ridiculous remark. There were 4 channels in the previous 16 gb models (4gb*4). Now Apple wants to save money and started using 6 gb unit. So the 18 gb module only has 3 channels (6gb*3). The memory bandwidth is worse then M2 equivalent models. //@anonymous: Triple-channel ram. 3x6gb sticks = 18gb. Better than dual-channel. //@Anonymous: 18gb ram is odd //@anonymous: bh and bb(with membership) 1749

11 months ago Up 15 | Reply

Anonymous

bh and bb(with membership) 1749

1 year ago Up 2 | Reply

Anonymous

18gb ram is odd //@anonymous: bh and bb(with membership) 1749

1 year ago Up 2 | Reply

Anonymous

Triple-channel ram. 3x6gb sticks = 18gb. Better than dual-channel. //@Anonymous: 18gb ram is odd //@anonymous: bh and bb(with membership) 1749

1 year ago Up 2 | Reply

Anonymous

Wow!

1 year ago Up 1 | Reply

Anonymous

OHMYGOSH! I love it!

1 year ago Up 1 | Reply

Anonymous

i got this one just a month ago, honestly, I don't feel it is running fast than my four year old macbook pro.

1 year ago Up 8 | Reply

Anonymous

Because it dors not. These so-called benchmarks are just marketing scams. //@anonymous: i got this one just a month ago, honestly, I don't feel it is running fast than my four year old macbook pro.

1 year ago Up 9 | Reply

Anonymous

That’s silly. Don’t you care about Apple’s profit? //@anonymous: i got this one just a month ago, honestly, I don't feel it is running fast than my four year old macbook pro.

1 year ago Up 1 | Reply

Anonymous

That's right. I don't feel my new phone is faster than my last. And I cannot drive my new car faster than my old car. Things are running about the same. It's not the reason for change. We spending because we want to stimulate the economy and our dopamine production. //@Anonymous: i got this one just a month ago, honestly, I don't feel it is running fast than my four year old macbook pro.

1 year ago Up 1 | Reply

Anonymous

You compared your phone with car. You can easily drive your car for 10+ years. Can you do the same for your phone? //@anonymous: That's right. I don't feel my new phone is faster than my last. And I cannot drive my new car faster than my old car. Things are running about the same. It's not the reason for change. We spending because we want to stimulate the economy and our dopamine production. //@Anonymous: i got this one just a month ago, honestly, I don't feel it is running fast than my four year old macbook pro.

1 year ago Up 19 | Reply

Anonymous

Comparing RAM number is like comparing gas tank size between a family care and a race car.

When M1 first came out, people reported it still runs smoothly with 400 safari windows open.

Crappy software will beat all the RAMs and CPUs you throw in

1 year ago Up 3 | Reply

Anonymous

For the same amount of money, I can get a much better PC laptop.

1 year ago Up 1 | Reply

Anonymous

Different cars have different gas tank size because they have different MPGs. But a full tank of gas will let you drive similar distances with different cars (excluding hybrids). RAM is completely different, more RAM is always better regardless what computer you have //@anonymous: Comparing RAM number is like comparing gas tank size between a family care and a race car.

When M1 first came out, people reported it still runs smoothly with 400 safari windows open.

Crappy software will beat all the RAMs and CPUs you throw in

1 year ago Up 4 | Reply

Anonymous

And your gaming experience will be light-years better. Macs are fashion but PCs are the means of productivity. //@anonymous: For the same amount of money, I can get a much better PC laptop.

1 year ago Up 1 | Reply

Anonymous

Yeah a highend gaming PC is like a racing car and a highend Mac is like a really nice family car //@anonymous: For the same amount of money, I can get a much better PC laptop.

1 year ago Up 7 | Reply

Anonymous

Indeed . It should either 8, 16 or 32 GB and so on. //@anonymous: 18gb ram is odd //@anonymous: bh and bb(with membership) 1749

1 year ago Up 1 | Reply

Anonymous

Apple reinvented RAM!!! //@Anonymous: 18gb ram is odd //@anonymous: bh and bb(with membership) 1749

1 year ago Up 4 | Reply

Anonymous

Triple-channel RAM? In this case it should be 3x3x3GB=27GB instead of 2x3x3=18GB //@Anonymous: Triple-channel ram. 3x6gb sticks = 18gb. Better than dual-channel. //@Anonymous: 18gb ram is odd //@anonymous: bh and bb(with membership) 1749

1 year ago Up 1 | Reply

Anonymous

still use my 9 years old iphone 6s now //@Anonymous: You compared your phone with car. You can easily drive your car for 10+ years. Can you do the same for your phone? //@anonymous: That's right. I don't feel my new phone is faster than my last. And I cannot drive my new car faster than my old car. Things are running about the same. It's not the reason for change. We spending because we want to stimulate the economy and our dopamine production. //@Anonymous: i got this one just a month ago, honestly, I don't feel it is running fast than my four year old macbook pro.

11 months ago Up 1 | Reply

Anonymous

This is such a ridiculous remark. There were 4 channels in the previous 16 gb models (4gb*4). Now Apple wants to save money and started using 6 gb unit. So the 18 gb module only has 3 channels (6gb*3). The memory bandwidth is worse then M2 equivalent models. //@anonymous: Triple-channel ram. 3x6gb sticks = 18gb. Better than dual-channel. //@Anonymous: 18gb ram is odd //@anonymous: bh and bb(with membership) 1749

11 months ago Up 15 | Reply

Anonymous

Should be 3 channels for money //@anonymous: This is such a ridiculous remark. There were 4 channels in the previous 16 gb models (4gb*4). Now Apple wants to save money and started using 6 gb unit. So the 18 gb module only has 3 channels (6gb*3). The memory bandwidth is worse then M2 equivalent models. //@anonymous: Triple-channel ram. 3x6gb sticks = 18gb. Better than dual-channel. //@Anonymous: 18gb ram is odd //@anonymous: bh and bb(with membership) 1749

10 months ago Up 4 | Reply

Anonymous

I feel my M3 Pro is slower than M2 Pro //@Anonymous: This is such a ridiculous remark. There were 4 channels in the previous 16 gb models (4gb*4). Now Apple wants to save money and started using 6 gb unit. So the 18 gb module only has 3 channels (6gb*3). The memory bandwidth is worse then M2 equivalent models. //@anonymous: Triple-channel ram. 3x6gb sticks = 18gb. Better than dual-channel. //@Anonymous: 18gb ram is odd //@anonymous: bh and bb(with membership) 1749

9 months ago Up 3 | Reply

Anonymous

For $1499, it's a pretty good deal!

9 months ago Up 2 | Reply

Anonymous

Costco price is also 1499.99

9 months ago Up 3 | Reply

Anonymous

B&HPhoto price is $1999 now

9 months ago Up 0 | Reply